Posted 13 September 2004 - 06:28 PM
. I was told that: 1) Writing should never be used as punishment because that makes kids hate writing; 2) Lines, in particular, cannot be given because they cause physical stress on finger and wrist muscles and are therefore considered corporal punishment;
does anyone know if the above facts are true? as i want to take the school or teacher to town over this
Posted 13 September 2004 - 07:23 PM
I don't see how it can do any harm myself...I suppose it depends if you think he's being harshly treated in getting a punishment exercise to do.
Would you favour an alternative form of punishment to this then? I am sure your school could arrange detention etc. Or instead of lines, simply ask for extra work to help him with his studies ??
Hope that helps
Posted 13 September 2004 - 07:29 PM
1. Writing can be used as a punishment as it doesnt make the kid hate writing, it makes them hate the teacher or repetitiveness biut it doesnt make them hate writing
2. Wrong, what u are describing here is repetitive strain injury, its a common ailment people who write a lot or type a lot or look at computer screens have (can also affect the eyes), it most certainly isnt a corporal punishment, rather a consquence of actions, you have no case here except if the lines are viewed as excessive.
May I ask how many lines ur child recieves in 1 go and what age ur child is?
Posted 13 September 2004 - 07:30 PM
I also agree with sparky - I don't think it does harm you. In an English exam your fingers would be under much greater physical stress.
Does that mean doing an English exam is corporal punishment? Actually it is. (joke)
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Posted 13 September 2004 - 07:43 PM
As a parent, you must have the right to disagree with your kids punishment being lines.
I would recommend you talk to the school and ask them to punish your kid in another way, eg would you agree with detention after school for say 20 mins or mornin break spent doin maths questions???
I am sure u must be able to decide wot punishment you feel is rite for your kid...talk to the school bout it
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Posted 13 September 2004 - 07:58 PM
Again cos so many people have wrote I'll sum up:
Ur points were both wrong (read my previous post)
However u can talk to the school about alternative punishments
Schools are allowed to give lines in their justification is fair (no discrimation present) and if the number of lines is not excessive
What age is ur child?
Why are the school always issueing lines?
How many lines are issued in 1 go?
N Hey dont doubt my previous post its a potential law student talking here!
Posted 13 September 2004 - 08:03 PM
I agree with wot u are sayin - Lines are used because they are annoying, and act as a deterant, but if the parents feel so strongly against their kid being punished with lines then surely they have the rite to talk to the school and arrange some other form of punishment
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Posted 14 September 2004 - 07:27 PM
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Posted 25 September 2004 - 02:03 PM
Anyway, my opinions on your points:
1) I agree that it will make your son hate writing. If your son gets them often enough, he begins to associate writing with punishment, and thus will hate writing since punishment is a bad thing. However, it's your son's fault in the first place, and I don't think that there is enough writing of punishments done to make this association. Your son will do enough of other writing to reduce the strength of the punishment writing on your child's mind.
2) Yes it can hurt over time, but you have no case. That's like saying teachers can't shout at pupils because it causes the pupil mental distress. If the teacher feels the pupil is giving him/her hassle, he has a right to punish with shouting. It's the same thing with the lines, and maybe repeating "I must not..." should subconsciously drill whatever the kid must do into the mind and cause them not to do it again.
In short, you have no case, unless you feel that your child is being "bullied" by the teacher, in which case you should arrange a meeting of some sort to sort it out. I doubt that's true though, and sometimes you just need to accept that maybe it's your son's fault. Have a word with him and let him know that you're not putting up with the bad behaviour at school. The courts wouldn't care enough, and you'd need to have a word with the school first anyway to show you'd attempted to resolve the problem.
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