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#1 werlop

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Posted 13 September 2004 - 04:36 PM

As some of you may be aware as of 2006 all physics candidates at all levels will have a data booklet with all the formulae in it available during the exam.

This booklet has now been published and is available by clicking here.

It should be of help for anyone revising for any of the physics courses whether or not they will actually have access to the book during the exam...
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Posted 13 September 2004 - 05:15 PM

QUOTE(werlop @ Sep 13 2004, 05:36 PM)
As some of you may be aware as of 2006 all physics candidates at all levels will have a data booklet with all the formulae in it available during the exam.

This booklet has now been published and is available by clicking here.

It should be of help for anyone revising for any of the physics courses whether or not they will actually have access to the book during the exam...

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OMG how easy is the exam going to get with this bookelet.
Cheers for this werlop, it wont be bad for advanced physics.
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Posted 13 September 2004 - 05:18 PM

Hey Its even got a periodic table, how generous of them... cool.gif
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Posted 13 September 2004 - 07:03 PM

QUOTE(werlop @ Sep 13 2004, 05:36 PM)
As some of you may be aware as of 2006 all physics candidates at all levels will have a data booklet with all the formulae in it available during the exam.

This booklet has now been published and is available by clicking here.

It should be of help for anyone revising for any of the physics courses whether or not they will actually have access to the book during the exam...

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That is so unfair! We had to sit n learn all them!!!! If ma sis does higher she will benefit from this! Grrr mad.gif

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Posted 13 September 2004 - 07:29 PM

QUOTE(superstar @ Sep 13 2004, 07:03 PM)
QUOTE(werlop @ Sep 13 2004, 05:36 PM)
As some of you may be aware as of 2006 all physics candidates at all levels will have a data booklet with all the formulae in it available during the exam.

This booklet has now been published and is available by clicking here.

It should be of help for anyone revising for any of the physics courses whether or not they will actually have access to the book during the exam...

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That is so unfair! We had to sit n learn all them!!!! If ma sis does higher she will benefit from this! Grrr mad.gif

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It's not necessarily an advantage. With the formulae infront of candidates the SQA cannot possibly ask exactly the same style of questions. What my teacher was saying was that to a greater extent the theory of the course will be assessed, there will be a greater number of situations where candidates must derive an equation, problems will no longer be so simple - pupils may have to extend the formulae they already have inorder to solove a complex or abstract problem. In some ways the formulae will be an advantage. However, in other ways it will be a hinderance.
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Posted 13 September 2004 - 10:05 PM

Nooooooooooo Way!

Its still goin to benefit students.....they wont have to spend time learnin the formula so they will be able to spend time learning the more difficult stuff

damn the SQA! Y wait until i finish the course!?!

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Posted 14 September 2004 - 06:06 PM

yes but learning the equations i always found easy (it least at higher level) but the harder part of physics has always been to explain why something happened or to find a value using a number of equations. This will now be more heavily tested than simple applications of knowm basic formula

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Posted 14 September 2004 - 06:48 PM

I agree with Dave and what a few others had to say. Really the equations were easy to learn, you dealt with them one day in class, done a few examples and you remembered them!

The exam, from what has been said previously, is not going to focus as much on the "formulae" but more on the theoretical side of physics - which is definately harder!!

But then with the course change, teachers will adapt to the new exam, so it'll probably not make too much of a difference.
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Posted 16 September 2004 - 09:31 PM

I tend to agree with the view that the equations were easy to learn, but no doubt a data booklet would make this even easier. This is not necessarily a good thing as it will not help you derive the equations, which really does help if your able to do so. This is perhaps more important at AH level where deriving a formula is crucial to understanding it.

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Posted 19 September 2004 - 04:46 PM

My teacher said that it wouldnt be that great. Instead of learning equations and knowing them off by heart, you would waste valuable time in the exam frantically searching for the right eqaution. Personally i didn't find it that difficult to learn all the equations.
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Posted 19 September 2004 - 10:15 PM

I think it'll be more of a disadvantage really. Teachers complain that the stuff you do throughout the physics course is mostly just maths and is a bit uninteresting and repetitive. In the exam, you get a mark for writing a formula. It's easy to remember the formula, so even doing that's going to get you marks. It'll also be a hinderance when jumping levels, eg. S-grade to higher, because you'll more easily forget equations.

I think we'll see more of this:

1) Derivation of equations - This comes up currently about once every 10 years. You'll likely see them like every year or two.

2) Explanitory questions - Less maths, more explanation. You could likely pass the course with a B by simply learning the equations and using them at the moment. Now, you'll need to explain more.

3) Problem solving using an upper level - Much like chemistry where they put higher questions in Standard Grade papers, and Advanced Higher questions in Higher papers. They'll give you some explanation of something, tell you the page to get data, then you'll need to use the right formula.

4) Harder questions of own level - There'll be more 'A' grade questions in higher papers, for example.

5) Less marks available per mathematical based question - Self explanitory.

6) Less "prove that the xxxxx of the xxxxx is xx units" (eg. mass of the train is 1000 kg) - You're less likely to stumble upon these style of questions, which are at times God-sends because you know you've got the right answer and can give you confidence boosts, not just a few extra marks you know you've picked up.

7) More mathematics based questions in the multiple choice section - The multiple choice often has much harder questions where formulae are concerned. To balance out the number of hard theory questions they'll need to take some of the easier ones out of the multiple choice.

Basically I see a much harder, and more strictly marked paper.

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Posted 21 February 2005 - 08:53 PM

wont it be sort of annoying because they wont have any relevant past papers to work from?

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Posted 21 February 2005 - 08:55 PM

maybe but if you think that your best bet is to work on Ps questions and making sure ou know all the facts esp the ones that could be made into trick questions you should be fine. I wonder how difficult they will make the paper in 2006

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Posted 21 February 2005 - 09:07 PM

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wont it be sort of annoying because they wont have any relevant past papers to work from?

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They may make model papers. The past papers (2002-2003) for AH Maths have been altered to suit the current style of exam.

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Posted 21 February 2005 - 10:54 PM

but this is really gonna cause a problem for any pupils who want to go on to study physics at uni. i get where they're coming from, because a physics exam really should be an applications exam, not a memory test. i, however, don't object to it at school level - it doesn't bother me because i've got through my standard grade & higher & got a 1 & an A (failed advanced higher right enough.....) so i'm indifferent to it. but i do object to it if this means that the arrangements are going to be altered at uni level aswell. just try passing a quantum physics or waves & optics exam without a formula list. its no easy task, if formula is given, it will be 10 times easier.
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Posted 21 February 2005 - 10:56 PM

i doubt anything will change at uni's because they have to protect their accreditations from industry...thats assuming everyone doesn't start failing

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Posted 11 May 2005 - 08:47 AM

Has there always been a data booklet for Chemistry, or was that brought in as well? If it was brought in, was there as much controversy over it as for this one, does anyone know?

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Posted 11 May 2005 - 09:16 AM

Hmmm... with Chemistry I think there's always been the need for a data booklet because remembering details about the elements would be far too much to remember.

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Posted 11 May 2005 - 02:09 PM

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i doubt anything will change at uni's because they have to protect their accreditations from industry...thats assuming everyone doesn't start failing

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but i think people will start failing, because they won't have been used to having to learn formulae
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Posted 11 May 2005 - 03:37 PM

mayeb its certaintly will be a culture shock for people

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