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Poll: 07 Election (35 member(s) have cast votes)

Which party will you / would you vote for?

  1. Labour (7 votes [20.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 20.00%

  2. SNP (9 votes [25.71%])

    Percentage of vote: 25.71%

  3. Conservatives (1 votes [2.86%])

    Percentage of vote: 2.86%

  4. Lib. Dem (8 votes [22.86%])

    Percentage of vote: 22.86%

  5. BNP (0 votes [0.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.00%

  6. Green Party (3 votes [8.57%])

    Percentage of vote: 8.57%

  7. SSP (2 votes [5.71%])

    Percentage of vote: 5.71%

  8. Independent (0 votes [0.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.00%

  9. Monster raving loony party O: (3 votes [8.57%])

    Percentage of vote: 8.57%

  10. Other (2 votes [5.71%])

    Percentage of vote: 5.71%

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#1 Richard_05

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Posted 14 March 2007 - 02:33 AM

Firstly, if I remember right they would be a regional vote and a list vote or something (vote for an MSP and vote for a party). Just don't be confusing and vote for a party thanks biggrin.gif

I know a fair few people (myself included) can't vote, but that doesn't matter, it's only an internet poll >_>

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Posted 14 March 2007 - 02:42 AM

So, I'd vote Labour.

Basically, I think why fix what isn't broken? The economy is growing, and looks forecasted to continue to do so - the future of the Scottish economy looks good.

They banned smoking in public places biggrin.gif

They abolished up front tuition fee's.

Blah, can't be bothered thinking anymore smile.gif

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Posted 14 March 2007 - 06:57 AM

I can vote, I just haven't registered. I'll have to get around to it in time.

Seriously, why does SNP have to be the only part with plans for Scottish Independence? Not only is the idea plausible, it gives Scotland the ability to reap the benefits of being an independent nation, and contrary to common opinion, it isn't going to send Scotland to the depths of economic hell.

Just, I don't wanna vote SNP. Alex Salmond is a turkey.

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Posted 14 March 2007 - 09:06 AM

QUOTE(Switch @ Mar 14 2007, 06:57 AM) View Post
Just, I don't wanna vote SNP. Alex Salmond is a turkey.


LOL

I'd vote Lib. Dem. (if I was old enough)

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Posted 14 March 2007 - 10:16 AM

I'm not going to vote. My politics lecturer did a whole lecture on why people don't vote, and they all seemed like perfectly valid reasons to me.

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Posted 14 March 2007 - 10:17 AM

"Other" for me. But I haven't decided who yet. Probably won't vote on the constituency, only the list.

QUOTE(Richard_05 @ Mar 14 2007, 02:42 AM) View Post
So, I'd vote Labour.

Basically, I think why fix what isn't broken? The economy is growing, and looks forecasted to continue to do so - the future of the Scottish economy looks good.


Labour in the Scottish Parliament have very little to do with economic policy directed from London. huh.gif

And it was the Liberals who pressured Labour to remove up-front tuition fees...Labour were pretty resistent to it.

Switch, the SSP and Solidarity both support an independent Scotland (possibly the Greens too?), and the Liberals are undecided on the issue I believe (LOL no surprise there).

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Posted 14 March 2007 - 10:23 AM

QUOTE(Switch @ Mar 14 2007, 06:57 AM) View Post
I can vote, I just haven't registered. I'll have to get around to it in time.

Seriously, why does SNP have to be the only part with plans for Scottish Independence? Not only is the idea plausible, it gives Scotland the ability to reap the benefits of being an independent nation, and contrary to common opinion, it isn't going to send Scotland to the depths of economic hell.

Just, I don't wanna vote SNP. Alex Salmond is a turkey.


Errrmm - Scottish Greens, SSP and Solidarity are all strongly pro-independence! Also you'd have to assume parties like: Scottish Independence Party, Free Scotland Party and Scottish Freedom Party would all be pro-independence too! laugh.gif

We've had the independence argument before somewhere on here. I'm against it - my views can be found by searching but just to re-iterate them: Pray tell - how would we finance ourselves once the well dries up? Surely that's a perfectly valid economic opinion on why independence could mean hell to pay? How is my standard of life going to improve by being independent?

Richard mentioned abolishing tuition fees - As a student myself and with such a forum, nearly all of the people on here are either students or prospective students - how will such a luxury be afforded after the oil money dries up? Raise taxes and hope the politicians spend it wisely? May I remind you that their current home was at least ten times over budget?

Some of the most important issues currently regard Scotland - Trident, Scottish Troops in Iraq and Fisheries. As for the elections, I've not really had much time to think about who I'll vote for.

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Posted 14 March 2007 - 10:50 AM

Oh God. I'm reading these posts and thinking, "I'm stuffed when it comes to my politics exam."

I don't have a scooby.

I know lots about policy-making, though. And the difference between political parties and pressure groups.

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Posted 14 March 2007 - 12:15 PM

I'm still undecided on the independence issue myself, but here's a thought - military spending could be slashed. Scotland would have no real need of any substantial army, navy or airforce and CERTAINLY no need for nuclear weapons.

I tend to think we might still be bugered economically if we were to be independent. Too much initial upheaval and then the oil will run dry far too quickly. But you never know - Salmond talks alot about emulating the Norweigian economy and there's no doubt it performs exceptionally well and sustains an almost socialist-style welfare state.

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Posted 14 March 2007 - 12:51 PM

Lib dems for me, they've never been in power, and I would like to see what they could do if they were in power.

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Posted 14 March 2007 - 02:21 PM

I'm completely undecided.

Want to vote Liberal Democrats, but I refuse to support the Labour Party's campaign, as they have yet again decided to co-exist.



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Posted 14 March 2007 - 06:19 PM

QUOTE(Lindsay @ Mar 14 2007, 10:16 AM) View Post
I'm not going to vote. My politics lecturer did a whole lecture on why people don't vote, and they all seemed like perfectly valid reasons to me.

Could you not just go in and spoil a vote?

My birthday is TWO days after the election so I can't vote and so have decided that I have investigations that need doing.

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Posted 15 March 2007 - 12:06 PM

I'l vote SNP they seem to be the only one that want the best deal for Scotland, whether or not that is Independance is another question, that isn't important, but what is important tis that the people of Scotland are given the chance to to express their views on independance.



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Posted 15 March 2007 - 07:53 PM

I can't vote but if I could I would vote Labour.
I don't agree with some of their policies but I see it as better them than SNP.
If SNP weren't so focused on independence and took time to look over some of their claims (they say they will try for Euro 2016 but that is up to the SFA) then I would consider it. I don't see independence as the best way forward and hate how the Scottish elections have been turned into a mini-Westminster elections by it.

I'm not sure how others would do in power.
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Posted 15 March 2007 - 07:59 PM

QUOTE(ermdeviation @ Mar 14 2007, 12:15 PM) View Post
I tend to think we might still be bugered economically if we were to be independent. Too much initial upheaval and then the oil will run dry far too quickly. But you never know - Salmond talks alot about emulating the Norweigian economy and there's no doubt it performs exceptionally well and sustains an almost socialist-style welfare state.


The reason Norway does so well is that so little of their oil is used by them, they export it all. They have enough HEP to power 99% of the country, a feat Scotland can not emulate at all.

They also use Denmark and Ireland as examples. Denmark you are taxed absurd amounts which I'm sure people wouldn't enjoy and Ireland received large amounts of EU grants, something Scotland would be unlikely get as most are heading to the East European countries (even Spain is loosing a lot of it's grants).

I would rather be free from the EU than the UK.
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Posted 15 March 2007 - 08:33 PM

I'm assuming I can vote, but I'd need to go home to do it which is a bit of a pain.

Anyway, I'm not sure who I would vote for because I'm against both Scottish nationalisation and pulling out of the EU as in my head neither are economically viable in the long term and then theres so many other things too. And no particular party seems to think the same things as I do so I have no idea.

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Posted 15 March 2007 - 09:56 PM

QUOTE(Richard_05 @ Mar 14 2007, 02:42 AM) View Post
So, I'd vote Labour.

Basically, I think why fix what isn't broken? The economy is growing, and looks forecasted to continue to do so - the future of the Scottish economy looks good.

They banned smoking in public places biggrin.gif

They abolished up front tuition fee's.

Blah, can't be bothered thinking anymore smile.gif

But it is broken. Badly so. Look at the state of the place.

Are there any parties that support cutting down on administration? Becuase it's just making a mess of things, all the centralisation is crap for Scotland.

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Posted 16 March 2007 - 03:36 AM

Does it really matter who we vote for? cos in 10 to 15 years we are going to hate them anyway, happens every time.

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Posted 16 March 2007 - 06:27 PM

QUOTE(Plug in Baby @ Mar 15 2007, 07:59 PM) View Post
The reason Norway does so well is that so little of their oil is used by them, they export it all. They have enough HEP to power 99% of the country, a feat Scotland can not emulate at all.


No, but we could viably run the country from nuclear power stations, a policy I would strongly support. Hunterston B could potentially supply 50% of Scotland's power single-handedly right now, so if it is replaced with a new Hunterston C and the continued renewal of other nuclear stations goes ahead, we could easily supply Scotland with nuclear power long into the future. Whether any of the parties hold this view, I do not know!

QUOTE(Plug in Baby @ Mar 15 2007, 07:59 PM) View Post
They also use Denmark and Ireland as examples. Denmark you are taxed absurd amounts which I'm sure people wouldn't enjoy and Ireland received large amounts of EU grants, something Scotland would be unlikely get as most are heading to the East European countries (even Spain is loosing a lot of it's grants).


But money which is taxed is spent on public projects...how is that a bad thing? Government expenditure is a more effective way of stimulating an economy than lower taxes are. Denmark has some of the lowest unemployment in Europe, low inflation and very high living standards. You don't get Danish billionaires very often like you might in the USA or something, but nor do you find people struggling just to survive. Denmark is a very good case for debunking the "higher unemployment benefit causes unemployment" claim too - they have lower unemployment than the USA even though they pay 90% of an average wage in unemployment benefits compared to something pitiful in the States like 40%.

QUOTE(Plug in Baby @ Mar 15 2007, 07:59 PM) View Post
I would rather be free from the EU than the UK.


And lose a tariff-free market which has massive potential for growth with the new ex-Eastern-bloc countries?

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Posted 17 March 2007 - 12:24 AM

QUOTE(ermdeviation @ Mar 16 2007, 06:27 PM) View Post
No, but we could viably run the country from nuclear power stations, a policy I would strongly support. Hunterston B could potentially supply 50% of Scotland's power single-handedly right now, so if it is replaced with a new Hunterston C and the continued renewal of other nuclear stations goes ahead, we could easily supply Scotland with nuclear power long into the future. Whether any of the parties hold this view, I do not know!


So would I, but we don't have the money from oil to invest with now.

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But money which is taxed is spent on public projects...how is that a bad thing? Government expenditure is a more effective way of stimulating an economy than lower taxes are. Denmark has some of the lowest unemployment in Europe, low inflation and very high living standards. You don't get Danish billionaires very often like you might in the USA or something, but nor do you find people struggling just to survive. Denmark is a very good case for debunking the "higher unemployment benefit causes unemployment" claim too - they have lower unemployment than the USA even though they pay 90% of an average wage in unemployment benefits compared to something pitiful in the States like 40%.
Could you see the population even considering extra tax as a good idea. Even the SNP's 'new poll tax' has made people think otherwise about voting for them?

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And lose a tariff-free market which has massive potential for growth with the new ex-Eastern-bloc countries?


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