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#21 Terrence

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Posted 16 December 2005 - 05:11 PM

QUOTE(Shaun @ Dec 16 2005, 08:28 AM)
I have been on a diet this year and lost a mass of 31.75kg, or 70lbs.

Crikey! You've lost 5 stone? That's astonishing.

TELL ME YOUR SECRET!

I could do with shifting another 2 - 3 stone but all I seem to do is lose a couple of lbs then put it all back on again. Verr, verr annoying. sad.gif
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Posted 17 December 2005 - 12:19 AM

Well, basically I started off on a calorie controlled diet (which all my diets previously had been) for example, you have 200kcal for breakfast, 400 kcal for dinner etc. But this time I decided to go fat controlled. Not saturated fat, not mono unsaturated fat, just all fat in general. I don't eat nuts (extremely high in fat - although good fat - but still fat), cakes, crisps etc etc.

**Note : I think calorie controlled diets are rubbish - look in supermarkets - calories are independant of fat. i.e. if you pick up 2 different 400kcal meals, one might have 20g of fat (which is high) and the other might have only 4g. So, if you were going calorie controlled, you could have either meal but even if weren't on a fat controlled diet - it is obviously better for someone on a calorie controlled diet (or any diet) to eat the meal with the less fat. This is how I think they are misleading.

A typical male is meant to eat 95g worth of fat a day and 70g for female I think. When I was really strict I was eating around 15g per day, or just under 16% of what I should be having.

For example, breakfast I try to keep around 2g of fat. Wheatabix, Frosties, ANY cereal usually is less than 2g of fat (or around 2.5 or something with milk). A common misconception is that something like Frosties is fattening - it isn't. Frosties are coated with sugar - but there is no fat in sugar (although there are calories - but I'm not on a calorie controlled diet).

For dinner, if I was to be great you can get meals in Tesco etc like Chicken Breasts in a Mexican sauce or something for around 4g of fat! (Simply look at the back of food) although now I may eat around 10g.

For example, if a meal had something like this at the back:

Fat : 10.4g
Of Which Saturates : 7.4g

The fat is 10.4, not 7.4, some people on a fat controlled diet only limit their saturated fat (a bad fat) instead of total fat. On my diet, the fat in the above example is 10.4, not 7.4, irrespective of whether the other 3g of fat is good or bad - in the end - it is fat.

No need to stop drinking your Pepsi or Irn Brew, or switch to diet (since Pepsi and Irn Brew etc contain sugar - but no fat) although when I was strict on my diet I always drank water.

You can eat chewy sweeties (which I love) like Wine Gums, Fruit Pastiles, Pick n' Mix (there are no fat in these what-so-ever.

So what I'm basically saying is that crisps, cakes, chocolate is out of the question. Have something around 2g of fat for breakfast (bread varies from around 0.5g a slice to 5g so watch out), a sandwich for lunch (with Snackajacks if you like which are 2.4g of fat) then for dinner, start off with a ready meal (something you can microwave etc) which is less than 10g of fat, and eat nothing after dinner.

Something else I tried : If you want to eat junk food, instead of saying to yourself "Don't have it!!!!" which is a phychological action - do a physical action - stop yourself from entering the kitchen. If you can physically stop yourself from doing that - then you won't eat stuff your not meant to, will you? i.e. if your sitting in your room, doing homework and you want to have crisps (around 7g of fat!!!) physically restrain yourself - don't let yourself leave the room!

I hope this is of some help and if you want to know anything else, please feel free to ask.

One more thing - losing the weight - it isn't simply enough to go on a diet - if you do - you WILL put the weight back on - you need to change yourself - how you think. If you just lose weight - then that, of course is good, but you haven't actually changed your thought processes so you need to change how you think.

I will never eat a chippy again in my life, or eat a full bag of crisps (I occasionally open a packet and have a couple out of it - which is ok) or anything else very fattening.

I disagree with Scottish Slimmers (calorie controlled), Weight Watchers (fat controlled) they simply speak propaganda.

My diet, I organised myself, it works, I can prove it works.

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Posted 17 December 2005 - 01:26 AM

Crikey! Wasn't expecting such a long and detailed reply - thought you'd just say "tape yer mouth closed, then you can't eat - ya fat cow!". Thanks verr much for typing that all oot.

NOT TO SOUND LIKE A BUM, but I've tried all that sad.gif However, I have no bloody willpower. Especially not when I have a nana and a mama shoving cakes in front of my face ALL THE TIME and telling me I need to eat more and to 'stop being anorexic'. (Errrr.... right). I guess I was stupidly hoping you'd enlighten me with a 'quick fix' solution. Alas, there is no quick fix!

Tis good to hear you're not one of those dafties who's obsessed with calories, calories, calories! Although, CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, calories (which are engergy, right?) can become fat if their not used up? Like, if you consume loads of energy but don't use it it gets stored up? Or am I talking mince?

(Wikipedia says that 3500 calories = 1lb of fat. Is this accurate at all?)

Bah. Chewy sweets have bits of animal in them. This is where being a veggie is verr, verr annoying. Boiled sweets are alright though? I like chocolate limes. 4.5g of fat per 100g. But there's no way I'd eat 100g of them. Yeugh. & OOOH, and I love snack-a-jacks. I could eat them until I explode.

I'm going to be such a party pooper this Xmas and refuse all Xmassy food. I don't even like it anyway. Usually eat it just cos it's there. Or because I get whined at for not eating. I'd rather have tofu and noodles for Xmas lunch, what's so wrong with that?

My bmi is about 23 (I know people say that bmi's are stupid, but whatever, I think they're a good indicator) so I know I'm not morbidly obese or anything. I'd just like to be less of a gargantuan FLABMONSTERRRR.

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Posted 17 December 2005 - 02:00 AM

As for the x amount of calories = x amount of fat, it will depend on your personal metabolism and the amount of exercise you do. BMI is ok as an indicator I think if you're not an athlete with more than average muscle mass. According to BMI this guy would probably be too fat:
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Posted 17 December 2005 - 04:07 AM

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...if you're not an athlete with more than average muscle mass.

I most certainly am not! Hahahaha!

I do have quite muscley arms though. Not crazy manly weird Madonna-type muscley, but I-can-punch-you-in-the-face-and-it-will-hurt type muscley. I have a fear of bingo wings so am prone to using 'ladies weights' to exersize the ol' triceps.
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Posted 17 December 2005 - 12:25 PM

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Crikey! Wasn't expecting such a long and detailed reply - thought you'd just say "tape yer mouth closed, then you can't eat - ya fat cow!". Thanks verr much for typing that all oot.

NOT TO SOUND LIKE A BUM, but I've tried all that sad.gif However, I have no bloody willpower. Especially not when I have a nana and a mama shoving cakes in front of my face ALL THE TIME and telling me I need to eat more and to 'stop being anorexic'. (Errrr.... right). I guess I was stupidly hoping you'd enlighten me with a 'quick fix' solution. Alas, there is no quick fix!

Tis good to hear you're not one of those dafties who's obsessed with calories, calories, calories! Although, CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, calories (which are engergy, right?) can become fat if their not used up? Like, if you consume loads of energy but don't use it it gets stored up? Or am I talking mince?

(Wikipedia says that 3500 calories = 1lb of fat. Is this accurate at all?)

Bah. Chewy sweets have bits of animal in them. This is where being a veggie is verr, verr annoying. Boiled sweets are alright though? I like chocolate limes. 4.5g of fat per 100g. But there's no way I'd eat 100g of them. Yeugh. & OOOH, and I love snack-a-jacks. I could eat them until I explode.

I'm going to be such a party pooper this Xmas and refuse all Xmassy food. I don't even like it anyway. Usually eat it just cos it's there. Or because I get whined at for not eating. I'd rather have tofu and noodles for Xmas lunch, what's so wrong with that?

My bmi is about 23 (I know people say that bmi's are stupid, but whatever, I think they're a good indicator) so I know I'm not morbidly obese or anything. I'd just like to be less of a gargantuan FLABMONSTERRRR.

What am I doing on t'interwebs at 1:30am? I should go sleep now.

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A BMI of 23 is good, so what you worried about?

If you don't want flab goto the gym

EDIT: I should have been more specific, goto the gym and excercise, do cardio and burn guess what? FAT!

Edited by John, 17 December 2005 - 12:27 PM.


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Posted 17 December 2005 - 05:51 PM

And of course eat a healthy, balanced diet.

Eating smaller portions more often increases your metabolism too.
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Posted 18 December 2005 - 11:30 AM

QUOTE(tuppence @ Dec 17 2005, 01:26 AM)
& OOOH, and I love snack-a-jacks. I could eat them until I explode.


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snack-a-jacks actually have very little fat compared to other crisps as far as I know

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Posted 21 December 2005 - 08:34 PM

I am 48.636363634 kg. (107lbs) my BMI is 19.6. I am 5 feet 2 or2 1/2 inches tall.
How many stones am I?

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Posted 21 December 2005 - 10:24 PM

Too light, AFAIK. :S

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Posted 21 December 2005 - 10:28 PM

QUOTE(kpusa1981 @ Dec 21 2005, 08:34 PM)
I am 48.636363634 kg. (107lbs) my BMI is 19.6.  I am 5 feet 2 or2 1/2 inches tall.
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7 stone and 8.99 pounds

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Posted 21 December 2005 - 10:33 PM

QUOTE(KhalidBoussouara @ Dec 21 2005, 10:28 PM)
QUOTE(kpusa1981 @ Dec 21 2005, 08:34 PM)
I am 48.636363634 kg. (107lbs) my BMI is 19.6.  I am 5 feet 2 or2 1/2 inches tall.
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7 stone and 8.99 pounds

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Hmm, I got 6 stones and 11lbs...I was thinking that 16lbs = 1st. Oh well.

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Posted 15 January 2006 - 12:48 PM

i weigh just under 6 stone, but i'm losing weigh again. unsure.gif
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Posted 15 January 2006 - 01:25 PM

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i weigh just under 6 stone, but i'm losing weigh again.  unsure.gif
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You weigh under 6 stone? That's seriously underweight. huh.gif
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Posted 15 January 2006 - 03:10 PM

I thought I had problems when I was 7 stone. O_o

You'll be pleased to know I've put half a stone on in the past week, haha! 'Mon the belly!

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Posted 15 January 2006 - 04:43 PM

You are a bit taller though. Congrats on the belly.
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Posted 15 January 2006 - 05:56 PM

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You are a bit taller though. Congrats on the belly.

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You'll be getting a beer belly soon tongue.gif Stop trying to stop my "1 month of no drinking" attempt dry.gif 10 times or so you put that pint of Tennants in front of my face on Friday. I had to kick your ass at pool just to get my own back dry.gif

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Posted 17 January 2006 - 12:30 PM

urm tennets? i am please to know that ur keeping ur weight up, i just have eatin problems but its getting better now, i think, i'm a short a**e neway so... i also never stay in one place so burn off alot of energy, escepially on saturdays when i'm out all day ridin the horses. that reminds me, thanks scott
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Posted 17 January 2006 - 12:50 PM

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urm tennets?

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Posted 17 January 2006 - 01:10 PM

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