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[AppleCore]

I don't find this type of police behaviour encouraging to say the least. The police keeping photographic records of protestors...sounds a bit 1984 to me

im kinda glad they do that!.. its just easier for other times and then it makes people realize that if they think of doing it again, there could be graver consequences!

[ermd]

im kinda glad they do that!.. its just easier for other times and then it makes people realize that if they think of doing it again, there could be graver consequences!

I was refering to the bbc article which quotes sources saying coachloads of people were stopped on their way to the protest and were photographed and searched.

And anyway, the police should not be allowed to keep photographs of anyone, unless they are a criminal! And since there was only one charge, for a drug related offence, I see no legitimate reason for the photographings.

[Katrina]

but they were really paranoid about there being trouble, they would just would have wanted to be extra sure everybody would be safe

[Dave]

i think the police did well

in other euro countries the police have resorted to breaking legs a little too quickly adn caused a riot from the whole crowd as opposed to a select number of actual trouble makers

[Katrina]

yeah there was only one bad group, only 60 out of 200000 thats not bad, just shows peaceful protests can be done and will probably have more effect!

[ermd]

yeah there was only one bad group, only 60 out of 200000 thats not bad, just shows peaceful protests can be done and will probably have more effect!

That doesn't really make sense. If 200,000 people turn up at the G8 armed with weapons, they will get a lot more done than without.

[Katrina]

no they wouldnt, they would just piss people off, hurt alot of people whcih is not the aim of this whole thing, its to save lives! plus it would be kinda selfish to go acting like that!

[ermd]

200,000 people could easily overrun the G8 compund, seize the leaders, and force a deal on poverty, climate change, etc. Peaceful protest does not get things done. It gets ignored.

[Dave]

eh no!!!

there would be a blood bath

200,000 untrained nutters against the best military killing machines is no contest

[ermd]

200,000 people against 10,000 police (who will have no CS spray, rubber bullets or water-cannons), you mean?

[Katrina]

u cant force a deal, and even if u could no action would then be taken, i think this way leaders will see how important this is and actually change things! Overcoming poverty is an act of justice! its wot should be done and anyone with a concience would see that

[Dave]

i think u will find if u get anywhere near gleneagles hotel snipers wil fire first adn ask questiosn later

[Katrina]

russian and american guys have permission to shoot if anyone crosses the line even though it goes against scottish laws

[ermd]

Yes it is, but do you think these leaders are representative of their people's views? Do you think they would sacrifice their own backsides for their cause?

Take Mr. Bush, for example. He constantly refuses to do anything about climate change, regardless of the factual, uncontestable evidence that CO2 emissions cause global warming. He refuses to reduce US emissions, because the corporations backing him don't want him to.

These "leaders" are pathetic people with no spines. They don't represent the majority, and they don't act in the interests of the vulnerable. If you believe elsewise, you are indeed very naive.

[ermd]

i think u will find if u get anywhere near gleneagles hotel snipers wil fire first adn ask questiosn later

As I said, 200,000 people would easily overrun it though.

[Katrina]

well i tihnk blair will try make changes, as for bush he is an idiot he hasnt got a clue about anything! he will be responsible for the ending of the world the way he is going!

[Dave]

no actually u have to admit bush is representing the majority of the US

In america they had a completely different culture. They love excess i mean truckers use petrol not Desiel. Also they want everything to be cheap

If Bush was to sign up to climate change regulations then all this would change and people would go nuts in the US.

[ermd]

Without the US, changes are nothing. They emit 24% of the world's CO2. And their emissions are increasing. Plus India and China who also emit huge amounts, but they are not aprt of the talks.

[Dave]

i know this but at the same time u have to see the culture in the USA and how resrictive it is to change

[Katrina]

yeah y arent they part of it?