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[AppleCore]

now are u relating that 2 urself aswell lol

jese, id most probably kill myself if i didn't shower every day. the last time i missed a shower i fidgeted and felt soo uncomfortable, i ended up takin 2 the next day!!

[dondon]

lol i'm like that i cannot physically walk through my front door until i've had a shower really it impossible if there was a fire in the middle of the night that would be the first place i would go

[AppleCore]

lol i'm like that i cannot physically walk through my front door until i've had a shower really it impossible  if there was a fire in the middle of the night that would be the first place i would go

LOL!.. jese.. right.. im tired! i need to sleeep.. got to go to school tomoro.. to finish up work.. peace out all!

[ermd]

Well, I'm happy about this Live8 thing - so long as these people don't only attend a free concert. A free concert is all well and good, but we need them to hit the streets in Edinburgh and Gleneagles. Memories of Genoa will still be fresh in some minds at least.

[Floorball Maniac]

Well, I'm happy about this Live8 thing - so long as these people don't only attend a free concert. A free concert is all well and good, but we need them to hit the streets in Edinburgh and Gleneagles. Memories of Genoa will still be fresh in some minds at least.

Very true!

I think many people will go thinking they are getting a free concert and leave having realized the extent of poverty. This will hopefully encourage more people to help make a difference and help.

[ermd]

Is anyone here going to be attending the concert/protests?

[AppleCore]

Is anyone here going to be attending the concert/protests?

not the concert but i have an exam the day before the protest.. so ill see

[ermd]

Going as a peaceful protester I hope . Looking back to what has gone before, the violence has gotten nowhere. They've never disrupted the actual meetings. Police presence is always too strong. I mean, at Genoa they were firing shots in the croud to disperse them and dropping CS gas from helicopters. Some of the injuries were pretty horrific. Did anyone ever hear about the police "raid" on a school which was housing jounalists? From Urban75:

The main gate opened continuously - tells the police officer - out of the vans came youths: while getting a beating. They made them stand against the wall. When they came in they smashed their heads against the wall. They peed on someone, others were beaten if they didn't sing fascist songs. A girl was vomiting blood and the chiefs of the prison police just watched. To the ladies they said that they were going to rape them with their sticks... well, it's a waste of time telling what you've already read.

And from the BBC:

Mr Covell says he was co-ordinating peaceful protests when he was caught up in Saturday's police action.

"I though I was going to die. I could hear my bones breaking inside. My lung collapsed. Most of my ribs on my left hand side are smashed. My spleen is ruptured.

"That was just the first attack. Then the second one came in. They hit me again, just because I moved a bit. I just moved my arm, and they hit me again, sustained for about five or 10 minutes."

Sorry for the long post but this truly does disgust me.

[linds]

GREAT IDEA! .. not the bestest of line ups

*gasps*

*falls over*

*dies*

Are you KIDDING?! Robbie Williams, U2, Coldplay, REM... Oh my GOD, I'd die if I were anywhere near any of them, never mind in the one DAY.

[AppleCore]

GREAT IDEA! .. not the bestest of line ups

*gasps*

*falls over*

*dies*

Are you KIDDING?! Robbie Williams, U2, Coldplay, REM... Oh my GOD, I'd die if I were anywhere near any of them, never mind in the one DAY.

k i see yer point! i should have said "not my taste" rather than "not the bestest of line ups" we differ greatly when it comes to our music! lets agree on that!

[dfx]

I'm no expert economist but merely debt cancellation and a mass influx of foreign aid won't solve poverty.

They say give a man a fish and you feed him for a day. Teach him how to fish and you feed him for life.

The solution lies in exporting skills and education and long term solutions. Take it from someone with first hand experience of what the situation is like...

[bred]

I agree that education is very important, but cancelling debt isn't just about feeding a man for a day. Debt is one of the main reasons why LEDCs can't escape the poverty trap.

[AppleCore]

I'm no expert economist but merely debt cancellation and a mass influx of foreign aid won't solve poverty.

They say give a man a fish and you feed him for a day. Teach him how to fish and you feed him for life.

The solution lies in exporting skills and education and long term solutions. Take it from someone with first hand experience of what the situation is like...

yeah, but its a start, (but i suspect the start will never begin, its politicians for F sake, when was the last time they listened?)

[dfx]

Thats real true, interest on debts piles up massively and over time the payback amount increases exponentially. I mean one of the outrages they have in third world countries is that when they gained independence from colonialists, they feel all the debt they recieved was a sorta "trick" (ref the interest and all) that they've just woken up to now. I think thats quite cynical though... but nonetheless, financial aid and debt cancellation is definitely a start.

[ermd]

The USA spends more on porn every year than the total sub-Saharan debt. To me, that shows how easy it could be to give these countries the help they need.

[dfx]

In 1998 the world spent $780 billion on weapons*. Bring in 9/11 and Iraq into the picture and that figure increases massively.

*http://www.globalissues.org/TradeRelated/Facts.asp

You know it's real nice how we all have a heart and want to help out everyone and have the world a place where we happily live ever after... or atleast a world where everyone can live a life like humans - a basic right everyone should be entitled to. But I think politics is a real dirty game... and its got a major hand in this.

[ermd]

It's the biggest hand in it! By a long shot. Lemme check my Iraq war spending figures...now over $170,000,000,000 has been spent killing in Iraq. Isn't it about time Bush gave up his agenda?

[bred]

It was about time a while ago. Unfortunately he isn't taking heed of our conversation though.

[ermd]

Here's some more figures referring to the spending of American tax.

The average household in the U.S. paid $6,296 in federal income taxes in 2004. Here is how that amount was spent:

Military and Defense: $1,887
Health: $1,276
Interest on the Debt (Military): $555
Interest on the Debt (Non-military): $616
Income Security: $414
Education: $231
Veterans’ Benefits: $216
Nutrition: $169
Housing: $135
Natural Resources: $109
Job Training: $25
Other: $66

Now, why not cut that military spending, and fund a public healthcare system, or a decent system of state schooling.

[ermd]

It was about time a while ago. Unfortunately he isn't taking heed of our conversation though.

Indeed. I reckon we could stage a bloodless coup . We could install HSN as the new governing power in the world.