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#1 tupacshakur

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Posted 10 May 2005 - 03:43 PM

Im repeating maths this year and im just wondering if you guys think this years exam/paper will be more difficult than last years (2004)

Will it be to the same standard as pastpapers from the last 4 years?

My teacher said it may be harder because new people made up this years maths paper/exam.........is this true?
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Posted 10 May 2005 - 03:55 PM

I'm not sure if new people made this year's exam or not. A lot of people found the 2004 paper easier than the previous years, so I reckon they'll make it harder again this year, roughly around the same difficulty as the 2000-2003 papers. Just a guess though. biggrin.gif

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Posted 10 May 2005 - 03:56 PM

yip it wont be any easer put it that way

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Posted 10 May 2005 - 04:08 PM

so theres really no chance of it being HARDER than the past few years (excluding 2004)?
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Posted 10 May 2005 - 04:17 PM

Err, it could possibly be harder, no way of telling really. But the 2004 certainly was EASIER than the previous exams, so I dont see why this year it can't get harder.

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Posted 10 May 2005 - 04:18 PM

The examiners would have made this years exam before the 2004 exam was even sat, so they wouldn't have known that people found the 2004 exam, on the whole, easy. They usually make each years exam a couple of years before, you see.

But you can probably assume that the 2005 exam will be harder than last years, since that's been the easiest paper they've made ever, I think.

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Posted 10 May 2005 - 04:31 PM

QUOTE(ally @ May 10 2005, 04:18 PM)
The examiners would have made this years exam before the 2004 exam was even sat, so they wouldn't have known that people found the 2004 exam, on the whole, easy. They usually make each years exam a couple of years before, you see.

But you can probably assume that the 2005 exam will be harder than last years, since that's been the easiest paper they've made ever, I think.

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fuk sake.....trust me to fuk up maths on the easiest year/paper in maths history mad.gif

u see the thing is i understand maths better now doing it a second time. Some people just take time to get to know things and i think thats me.

Last year i wasnt confident on maths atall but looking bak at the paper now it seems very managable but im just pissed of that i couldnt take that oppertunity last year sad.gif

Oh well i'll try my hardest in this paper. I suppose thats why the cut off for a B in last years paper was 63%. Will this years cut off be lower if the paper is harder?

(apparently the SG credit was the hardest in 5 years , dunno if that may be related to the forcoming higher 2005 paper)
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Posted 10 May 2005 - 04:36 PM

QUOTE(tupacshakur @ May 10 2005, 05:31 PM)
Oh well i'll try my hardest in this paper. I suppose thats why the cut off for a B in last years paper was 63%. Will this years cut off be lower if the paper is harder?

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It's likely. Here is what the SQA say in relation to deteremining the cut-offs:

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While SQA aims to set examinations and create mark schemes which will allow a competent candidate to score a minimum 50% of the available marks (notional passmark) and a very well-prepared, very competent candidate to score at least 70%, it is almost impossible to get the standard absolutely on target
every year, in every subject and level
• Each year we therefore hold a passmark meeting for each subject at each level where we bring together all the information available (statistical and judgmental). The Principal Assessor and SQA Qualifications Manager meet with the relevant SQA Business Manager and Statistician to discuss the evidence and make
decisions. The meetings are chaired by members of the senior management team at SQA
• We adjust the passmark downwards if there is evidence that we have set a slightly more demanding exam than usual, allowing the pass rate to be unaffected by this circumstance
• We adjust the passmark upwards if there is evidence that we have set a slightly less demanding exam than usual, allowing the pass rate to be unaffected by this circumstance
• Where the standard appears to be very similar to previous years, we maintain similar grade boundaries
• An exam paper at a particular level in a subject in one year tends to have a marginally different set of grade boundaries from exam papers in that subject at that level in other years. This is because the particular
questions are different. This is also the case for exams set in centres. And just because SQA has altered a boundary in a particular year in say Higher Chemistry does not mean that centres should necessarily alter boundaries in their prelim exam in Higher Chemistry. The two are not that closely related as they do not
contain identical questions
• Our main aim is to be fair to candidates across all subjects and all levels and maintain standards across the years, even as syllabuses evolve and change


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Posted 10 May 2005 - 04:38 PM

QUOTE(tupacshakur @ May 10 2005, 05:31 PM)
(apparently the SG credit was the hardest in 5 years , dunno if that may be related to the forcoming higher 2005 paper)

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Not too sure about that. They have different people setting the exam for H and S.G, I think.


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Posted 10 May 2005 - 04:48 PM

QUOTE(ally @ May 10 2005, 04:38 PM)
QUOTE(tupacshakur @ May 10 2005, 05:31 PM)
(apparently the SG credit was the hardest in 5 years , dunno if that may be related to the forcoming higher 2005 paper)

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Not too sure about that. They have different people setting the exam for H and S.G, I think.

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orite thats just what my teacher said.

theres bound to be optimisation in this paper. I cant stand it!
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Posted 10 May 2005 - 10:23 PM

QUOTE(tupacshakur @ May 10 2005, 04:31 PM)
(apparently the SG credit was the hardest in 5 years , dunno if that may be related to the forcoming higher 2005 paper)
I would agree with that. Many of the RE questions were particularly demanding and gave a weaker student slim chance of gaining marks in each. However, IMHO the General exam was the most straightforward I have seen in my career (8 years). In contrast, last years Credit exam was pretty fair but the General very tough for a less than strong candidate. Last years Higher exam was also very straightforward, as you agree. Almost every question was of a type that would have been familiar to anyone who had worked through the textbooks and past papers thoroughly.

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Posted 11 May 2005 - 01:59 PM

how much percentage of the questions in the paper are roughly aimed at C level candidates?

someone said that 80% of last years paper (2004) was C level!

im getting scared that this years exam is gonna be so hard and tough just because last years was easy!
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Posted 11 May 2005 - 03:47 PM

it was 60% actually

Its never going to be more than that

Its really annoying that amount of rubbish that gets spread about

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Posted 11 May 2005 - 04:05 PM

QUOTE(Dave @ May 11 2005, 03:47 PM)
it was 60% actually

Its never going to be more than that

Its really annoying that amount of rubbish that gets spread about

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will that be the same for this year.

so if u get all the C questions right and get some B ones right aswell u can easily get 60% plus?
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Posted 11 May 2005 - 06:56 PM

My teacher told me this years standard grade credit exam was really hard. sad.gif Which mite mean this years higher one might be really hard as well!! God, I hope not! blink.gif

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Posted 11 May 2005 - 07:56 PM

QUOTE(oddbins @ May 11 2005, 06:56 PM)
My teacher told me this years standard grade credit exam was really hard.  sad.gif  Which mite mean this years higher one might be really hard as well!! God, I hope not!  blink.gif

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but it will be/ should be the same standard as the past papers from 2000-2003.

They cant just make it massivley harder. They have to keep some sort of standard.
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Posted 11 May 2005 - 10:35 PM

QUOTE(Dave @ May 11 2005, 04:47 PM)
it was 60% actually

Its never going to be more than that

Its really annoying that amount of rubbish that gets spread about

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For the 2004 exam there were only two proper A questions:

Paper 1 - Question 11 (b)
Paper 2 - Question 11

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Posted 12 May 2005 - 07:12 AM

QUOTE(ally @ May 11 2005, 10:35 PM)
QUOTE(Dave @ May 11 2005, 04:47 PM)
it was 60% actually

Its never going to be more than that

Its really annoying that amount of rubbish that gets spread about

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For the 2004 exam there were only two proper A questions:

Paper 1 - Question 11 (b)
Paper 2 - Question 11

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isnt there only 2 A type questions in every exam?

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Posted 12 May 2005 - 01:36 PM

QUOTE(tupacshakur @ May 12 2005, 08:12 AM)
isnt there only 2 A type questions in every exam?

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Not too sure, but last years exam did have more than 60% C questions.

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Posted 14 May 2005 - 03:05 PM

QUOTE(oddbins @ May 11 2005, 06:56 PM)
My teacher told me this years standard grade credit exam was really hard.  sad.gif  Which mite mean this years higher one might be really hard as well!! God, I hope not!  blink.gif

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Yeah apparently the standard grade one was really quite tricky, but like people said earlier different people set the S.G from the Higher. But following the trends the chances of getting an easy paper like 2004 are slim and none. chances are it will be pretty tricky aswell, so it looks like i may be a member of this forum for another year! wink.gif





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