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[Ally]

I go to a state school.

Another question I want to ask is about positive discrimination. Do you believe that pupils at a state school should be positively discriminated?

[bred]

I go to a state school which gets below national average results and although I am not eligible for the LEAPS programme of positive discrimination I think it is a good idea.

[Dave]

i dont like positive discrimination its just wrong

If you are right for the job/placement then you should be given it not because of charity because that means someone who is right doesn't get (that person could be me)

[Ally]

i dont like positive discrimination its just wrong

If you are right for the job/placement then you should be given it not because of charity because that means someone who is right doesn't get (that person could be me)

But let's take pupils at Eton for example (extreme example I know). They must get so much coaching and guidance that they probably will impress more than us, who don't receive good enough guidance (well, I know I don't). Don't you beleive that's unfair?

[Dave]

are you talking about universities or getting a job

either way i suppose it doesn't matter because people are also going to go for the people the same as them.

You will get discrimation if you go to Paisley uni and the HR person went to Glasgow
You will get discrimation if you go to Oxford and the HR person went to Paisley

I just think thats the world we live in so we may as well get on with it rather then have people made to take us because what will happen to these people when there is nobody left to help them

[ermd]

Over the course of my short conversations with Dave, I have noticed he is very willing to accept things "as they are" and "just get on with it". Well, here's a novel idea: why not try to change things!

And the whole state/private school thing, well, it's just another class barrier in the world. Just because you are from a wealthy family, why does that mean you should have the right to a better education, better prospects, etc...

[Ally]

are you talking about universities or getting a job

Both, but mainly about Universities.

[Steve]

I went to a state school, and I guess I was lucky in that it was a really good school. A private school does not necessarily mean a better education - all it means is that your parents can afford to send you there.

Being at Edinburgh uni, there are lots of people from private schools. I'd say people who come to university from private schools are probably less likely to try as hard as people from state schools. And a lot of people seem to only be there because 'daddy' wants them to be.

You're more likely to go on to post-graduate education if you went to a state school.

If people want to send their children to private schools, then that's fine, but it doesn't guarantee that they will get good qualifications - some people, including certain Royals, just aren't academic.

I was eligable for the LEAPs scheme, but I didn't join or mention it on any applications - in my opinion, coming from a modest background (and a single-parent family for that matter) hasn't held me back in the slightest

[superstar]

And the whole state/private school thing, well, it's just another class barrier in the world. Just because you are from a wealthy family, why does that mean you should have the right to a better education, better prospects, etc...

Couldn't agree more.

[Dave]

its not a barrier and i dont believe you always get a better education in private schools its there is a nicer atmosphere i would assume as there is no or very few NEDs ruining everything

I would have loved to have gone to Hutchie in Glasgow for the experience and the opportunities i (as an outsider looking in) think i would have gotton. However i am no worse without it

as for me accepting everything i think that is a good thing because if it aint broke why try (and fail) to fix it

[Lesley]

I go to a good old state school, which had better results this year than Hutchy, one of the nearer private school to us (or so we have been told numerous times) I wouldnt like to go a private school. From what i've heard the pressure they get is unbelievable (that's all i've heard not saying it's necessarily true!)

[Kevin_Kilbane]

My state school is falling to bits and is getting rebuilt. But, its done the job for me.

[Lesley]

My state school is falling to bits and is getting rebuilt.  But, its done the job for me.

Likewise! The current school is a hole and a new one is nearing the end of the planning process(think it's being built summer '06)

[werlop]

My friend's dad is a chemistry lecturer at Glasgow and he has told me that in general state school pupils tend to adapt to university life better as private school pupils have always been forced to achieve and have been really pressured throughout their school life. When this pressure is taken away they do not know how to work properly and end up floundering whereas state school pupils are more used to this and and up doing better.

He says this doesn't always happen, but is relatively common.

[chicken licking]

I go to a good old state school, which had better results this year than Hutchy, one of the nearer private school to us (or so we have been told numerous times) I wouldnt like to go a private school. From what i've heard the pressure they get is unbelievable (that's all i've heard not saying it's necessarily true!)

My cousin goes to one and he at the bottom of his year with averaging marks of 87%!! They have high expectations in private schools. Even though private school are 'supposed to be better' there are bound to be states school higher in the league table.

[Ally]

My cousin goes to one and he at the bottom of his year with averaging marks of 87%!!

Really?! That'd probably be the highest marks in my school, if they were prelim marks.

[chicken licking]

I feel sorry for him. His mum tell him off all the time...but i console him with the fact that my marks aren't that great *cousin snigger*.

[Icemaiden]

I go a good old state school,which results are pretty bad: apparently better tho this year .My cousins,however, go to a private school down in england.When I go to see them (about once every 5 years:don't worry I'm not too keen on them),its always the snob value -->"Oh we do such and such [insert hockey,football here],[insert name] is captain of the school hockey team and quiz team,and Icemaiden what do you do??" To which i normally look down at my feet and say nothing and then get the reply "are you sure??".I mean Ok so I don't get the best grades in the world and I go to a state school,but hey I feel I'm living my life to the full with people around me that make me happy and really what matters is that I get somewhere in life where I want to be....and by getting offers for uni I feel that I'm getting somewhere.

Wow that was long!

Huggles

Ice Maiden

[ermd]

lol, that's what gets me the most, the general snobbery eminating from private schools.

[Dave]

there isn't always snobbery i mean Belmont House is just full of Celtic players kids and such commoners with money

Think tho wouldn't it be good to go to a school where you had science classroom what had equipment that worked and computers from the 21st century and huge libraries with books in them that didn't stink of fags and vodka