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Posted 09 December 2004 - 10:34 PM

medicine is different because they only look at one sitting because they want the best people obviously

even tho when you compare the courses has you have done and it looks like we get a bad deal actually it pans out that they are the same because the quantity of work in a higher subject is much lower and less intense the one A-level subject

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Posted 09 December 2004 - 10:38 PM

Yes but it is unfair that universities take account into two more subjects that the student may not like - lets say, English. A Level students won't have to do English so it wouldn't matter.

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Posted 09 December 2004 - 10:44 PM

i know what you mean but i think if you want to go to uni english really is a must i would think

at the end of ther day tho this is really only of any interest or concern if you are a scottisg student wanting to go to an english university and seeing as there is so many excellent instuitions here why would you want to

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Posted 10 December 2004 - 08:33 PM

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at the end of ther day tho this is really only of any interest or concern if you are a scottisg student wanting to go to an english university and seeing as there is so many excellent instuitions here why would you want to

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That's beside the point - I know so many people who want to go down south.

An example of the unfairness is if you apply to Cambridge. They ask for AAAAB - AAAAA for Highers and predictions of AAA at AH. For english candidates they only ask for good GCSE grades (Higher > GCSE) and A level predictions of AAA. They don't care about your AS. Unfair.

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Posted 11 December 2004 - 10:05 AM

I know. That isnt even funny that. I think our system is much better though. It separates the elite from the average, not everyone gets 5As or 4As and a B, or 3 Adv As. Whereas, in england the rate of getting 3
A-levels at A is increasing so like everyone is getting them. Therefore I declare... THEY ARE TOO EASY.
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Posted 11 December 2004 - 01:07 PM

The Scottish Education system is supposedly among the best in the world according to a newspaper I was reading yesterday; > than the English system is stated.

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Posted 11 December 2004 - 01:26 PM

I think we're a bit biased, but I would certainly say our system is better.

We don't have subjects like General Studies which is basically Social Eduction - you can get an A Level in that! I think that's part of the reason so many people get good A Levels, there are subjects which we wouldn't think you could get credit for.
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Posted 11 December 2004 - 04:38 PM

another reason could be everyone sitting at that level is capable of passing at that level i mean really if you have no hope why are you there

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Posted 17 December 2004 - 01:19 PM

Isn't an A at Higher worth 72 points? Either way, the Scottish system means that we can get entrance to university after S5. English students can't use their AS grades to get into uni, they must use their full A-level (AS+A2). I'm doing 2 A-levels and an Advanced Higher this year and the AH is seriously much harder. A-level is harder than Higher though. I reckon a fair system would be (assuming grade A):
60 points for AS
72 for Higher
120 points for full A-level
144 points for AH (replaces the Higher score).

This would rank things fairly in terms of difficulty. If you follow the points scheme you'll see that 5 A Highers is worth 360 points, the same as 3 A grades at A-level.

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Posted 08 February 2005 - 06:54 AM

QUOTE(blueheaduk @ Dec 9 2004, 02:30 PM)
Soo...for medicine (which I'm applying for btw biggrin.gif)

English students get 2 years to do 3 subjects, of which their grades only count at the end of the 2 years to get entry...

Meanwhile, Scottish students have 1 year to do 5 subjects, and universities look at those grades only and generally ignore 6th year work (for medicine)

Um :S

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AS- Level = 5 subjects 360 for 5A's 200 points for 5 C's (1st year)(3 Modules and exams really more in many cases)
A-Levels = 3 subjects 360 for 3 A's 240 points for 3 C's (2nd year)(3 Modules and exams really more in many cases)
It is true that the scores only counts after the second year in England. English students do however usually take 5 subjects in the first year.

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Posted 08 February 2005 - 08:29 AM

QUOTE(kpusa1981 @ Feb 8 2005, 06:54 AM)
AS- Level = 5 subjects 360 for 5A's 200 points for 5 C's (1st year)(3 Modules and  exams really more in many cases)

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Isn't it 60 points for an A at AS?


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Posted 08 February 2005 - 08:47 AM

QUOTE(blueheaduk @ Dec 9 2004, 10:30 PM)
generally ignore 6th year work (for medicine)

Um :S

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Hmm, that used to be the case, but a lot of places are putting conditions on AH these days. For example Glasgow is typically giving out offers of BBC at AH just now.
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Posted 08 February 2005 - 12:02 PM

iv'e got 5A's at higher and southampton uni are still lookin for another 2A's and a B at higher and an A in my advanced higher.

their reason: their students enter uni at a higher level than scottish students so we need more qualifications. and here's me thinkin they were just ignorant.

by the way, if i get those qualifications, i would have 612 ucas points. they are only asking for 390 to do accounts.

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Posted 08 February 2005 - 12:45 PM

why do you want to got to an english uni are scottish ones not good enough for you rolleyes.gif

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Posted 08 February 2005 - 04:35 PM

Arg people say that to me all the time!
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Posted 08 February 2005 - 04:37 PM

yes but seriously though there must be a reason other than it looks nice and prestious

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Posted 08 February 2005 - 04:50 PM

QUOTE(werlop @ Feb 8 2005, 04:35 PM)
Arg people say that to me all the time!

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And me. rolleyes.gif
QUOTE(Dave @ Feb 8 2005, 04:37 PM)
yes but seriously though there must be a reason other than it looks nice and prestious

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Maybe not all the universities in Scotland do that course?

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Posted 08 February 2005 - 05:07 PM

QUOTE(ally @ Feb 8 2005, 12:29 AM)
QUOTE(kpusa1981 @ Feb 8 2005, 06:54 AM)
AS- Level = 5 subjects 360 for 5A's 200 points for 5 C's (1st year)(3 Modules and  exams really more in many cases)
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Isn't it 60 points for an A at AS?
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Yes the AS-Levels singlerly are worth 60 points. If you have taken 3 A-levels it is worth 360 points.

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Posted 20 February 2005 - 05:36 PM

QUOTE(AlexMcIver @ Dec 17 2004, 05:19 AM)
Isn't an A at Higher worth 72 points? Either way, the Scottish system means that we can get entrance to university after S5. English students can't use their AS grades to get into uni, they must use their full A-level (AS+A2). I'm doing 2 A-levels and an Advanced Higher this year and the AH is seriously much harder. A-level is harder than Higher though. I reckon a fair system would be (assuming grade A):
60 points for AS
72 for Higher
120 points for full A-level
144 points for AH (replaces the Higher score).

This would rank things fairly in terms of difficulty. If you follow the points scheme you'll see that 5 A Highers is worth 360 points, the same as 3 A grades at A-level.

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What made you to decide to take 2 A- Levels? Dose that mean that you are doing th AS- Level or are you doing the A2 part of the A-Level? That is cool that you decided to take A-Levels.

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Posted 25 January 2006 - 09:20 PM

QUOTE(AlexMcIver @ Dec 17 2004, 01:19 PM)
Isn't an A at Higher worth 72 points? Either way, the Scottish system means that we can get entrance to university after S5. English students can't use their AS grades to get into uni, they must use their full A-level (AS+A2). I'm doing 2 A-levels and an Advanced Higher this year and the AH is seriously much harder. A-level is harder than Higher though. I reckon a fair system would be (assuming grade A):
60 points for AS
72 for Higher
120 points for full A-level
144 points for AH (replaces the Higher score).

This would rank things fairly in terms of difficulty. If you follow the points scheme you'll see that 5 A Highers is worth 360 points, the same as 3 A grades at A-level.

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An "A" at AH is 120 points is it not?

QUOTE(kpusa1981 @ Feb 8 2005, 05:07 PM)
Yes the AS-Levels singlerly are  worth 60 points. If you have taken  5 A-levels it is worth 360 points.

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I think you mean 5 AS-levels, but still, that's news to me.
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